{"id":22109,"date":"2023-08-09T20:31:26","date_gmt":"2023-08-09T18:31:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vestionline.com\/?p=22109"},"modified":"2023-08-09T20:31:26","modified_gmt":"2023-08-09T18:31:26","slug":"gde-se-srbija-leci","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vestionline.com\/gde-se-srbija-leci\/","title":{"rendered":"Gde se Srbija le\u010di ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-category\"><a class=\"category-title\" href=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/rubrika\/dijalog\/licni-stavovi\/\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">LI\u010cNI STAVOVI<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"my-4 post-intro-above font-body\">Reagovanje na tekst sociologa Vladana Stojanovi\u0107a &#8222;Dobro do\u0161li u filozofiju tame&#8220; (Danas, 29\/30. jul)<\/div>\n<h1 class=\"post-title\">Kad se vladike le\u010de na VMA, a vernici u manastirima<\/h1>\n<div class=\"flex mb-4\">\n<div class=\"w-full md:w-5\/12\">\n<div class=\"post-author\"><span class=\"post-meta author-avatar\"><img title=\"Gordana Sin\u0111eli\u0107\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/wp-content\/themes\/danas-2021\/assets\/public\/images\/default-avatar.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/span><span class=\"post-meta author-name\">Gordana Sin\u0111eli\u0107<\/span><span class=\"post-meta post-date\">danas 15:22<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"hidden w-full md:w-7\/12 lg:flex social-share-top\">\n<ul class=\"social-share\">\n<li class=\"social-comments\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/dijalog\/licni-stavovi\/kad-se-vladike-lece-na-vma-a-vernici-u-manastirima\/#comment-form-div\"><i class=\"fa fa-comments\"><\/i>\u00a09\u00a0komentara<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-content content\">\n<div class=\"post-featured-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"attachment-featured-single size-featured-single wp-post-image\" title=\"Kad se vladike le\u010de na VMA, a vernici u manastirima 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/4-9-e1691522041470-1000x560.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/4-9-e1691522041470-1000x560.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.danas.rs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/4-9-e1691522041470-300x169.jpg 300w\" alt=\"Kad se vladike le\u010de na VMA, a vernici u manastirima 1\" width=\"1000\" height=\"560\" \/><span class=\"post-featured-image-caption\">foto (BETAPHOTO\/Nikola Todorovi\u0107)<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"flex\">\n<div class=\"w-full md:w-10\/12\">\n<div class=\"font-medium post-intro-content content\">\n<p>Pro\u010ditav\u0161i tekst sociologa Vladana Stojanovi\u0107a \u201eDobro do\u0161li u filozofiju tame\u201c u nedeljnom Danasu od 29\/30. jula, osetila sam se prozvanom da dam svoj komentar (\u201eneka \u010ditaoci procene\u2026..\u201c). S obzirom da nisam sociolo\u0161kinja, filozofkinja, ili teolo\u0161kinja, ja to ne mogu kompetentno komentarisati, ve\u0107 \u0107u samo izneti svoje mi\u0161ljenje na tvrdnje autora o zna\u010daju vere u modernom dru\u0161tvu i \u0161tetnosti ateizma, a iznete povodom ranijeg teksta sociologa Alekseja Ki\u0161juhasa \u201eVeruju\u0107a Srbija\u201c.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Mislim da davanje zna\u010daja veri u dana\u0161njoj dr\u017eavi i me\u0161anje crkve u dr\u017eavne poslove \u010dini jednu dr\u017eavu prili\u010dno demode. Vera i prate\u0107a crkva iz davnih vremena kada nije bilo \u0161kola, bolnica, kafana, dr\u017eavnih institucija, udru\u017eenja gra\u0111ana, dru\u0161tvenih mre\u017ea i kojekakvih platformi, moraju biti temeljno promenjene da bi opstale u ozbiljnoj i modernoj dr\u017eavi.<\/p>\n<p>Zato Amerika mo\u017ee da bude moderna i da istovremeno ima veliki broj vernika. Ali zato Srbija u kojoj se \u201evladike le\u010de na VMA, a vernici u manastirima\u201c (mislim da je ovo napisao Ki\u0161juhas u nekom ranijem tekstu, a svi znamo da je ta\u010dno) nije moderna dr\u017eava i neizmerno je licemerna.<\/p>\n<p>Autor teksta \u201eDobro do\u0161li u filozofiju tame\u201c ne vidi vezu izme\u0111u religije i zla u\u010dinjenog u ime religije, jer je, po njegovim re\u010dima, religija samo filozofija, ideologija, nematerijalni princip, a zlo \u010dine ljudi. Ja ne razumem \u0161ta to stvarno zna\u010di, kome to treba, kome poma\u017ee.<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-2 code-block-block-2\">\n<div class=\"danas-dfp \">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1623144860219-0\" class=\" div-gpt-ad-1623144860219-0-loaded\">\n<div id=\"\/21876124292\/danas\/danas-inText-1\" data-google-query-id=\"CLDLzKmZ0IADFcMd4AoddkcGlQ\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/21876124292\/danas\/danas-inText-1_0__container__\"><iframe id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/21876124292\/danas\/danas-inText-1_0\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"3rd party ad content\" role=\"region\" name=\"google_ads_iframe_\/21876124292\/danas\/danas-inText-1_0\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" aria-label=\"Advertisement\" data-load-complete=\"true\" data-google-container-id=\"2\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div class=\"tas-ads\">\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-container\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Ako smo svedoci da nas iz SPC decenijama obasipaju raznim nepodop\u0161tinama (sa \u010dasnim i retkim izuzecima), gde je ta filozofija, taj nematerijalni princip? Ako je samo u glavama vernika, koja je uloga ovakve crkve? I ima li ve\u0107e tame? S druge strane autor insinuira da su Hitler i Staljin ubijali u ime ateizma, kao da im je samo ateizam bio zajedni\u010dki, i ako su uop\u0161te bili ateisti.<\/p>\n<p>Sve ostalo u tekstu \u201eDobro do\u0161li u filozofiju tame\u201c te\u0161ko je komentarisati, jer su tvrdnje konfuzne i nedosledne. Na primer, veruju\u0107i sociolog ne mora da dokazuje postojanje Boga, ali sociolog ateista bi trebalo da doka\u017ee da bog ne postoji. A glavni dokazi postojanja Boga su nezamislivost nepostojanja \u201ezavr\u0161ne pravde\u201c (\u0161to god da je to) ili prosto te\u0161ko\u0107a da se nekome ka\u017ee da je slu\u010dajno ro\u0111en.<\/p>\n<p>A naj\u010dudnije od svega je \u0161to se u celom tekstu ne pominje pojam morala i uop\u0161te se ne ra\u010duna na njegovo postojanje. Ili si vernik i \u010deka\u0161 \u201ezavr\u0161nu pravdu\u201c ili si neki zli ateista koga \u010deka ta pravda.<\/p>\n<p>Naravno, sve su ovo samo moji utisci posle \u010ditanja teksta \u201eDobro do\u0161li u filozofiju tame\u201c. Ja li\u010dno verujem u moral i u neku budu\u0107u bolju dr\u017eavu u kojoj \u0107emo do\u017eiveti i do\u017eivljavati sada\u0161nju, svakodnevnu i podrazumevaju\u0107u pravdu.<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-3 code-block-block-3\">\n<div class=\"danas-dfp \">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1623144906099-0\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>A za zavr\u0161nu \u0107emo da vidimo zavr\u0161nog dana. Tako\u0111e mislim da su sva\u010dija vera i nevera li\u010dne stvari. Niti se verniku mo\u017ee zabraniti da veruje, niti se ateista mo\u017ee naterati na to. I sve to nema veze sa crkvom i zvani\u010dnom religijom.<\/p>\n<p>I na kraju, ne verujem da je Ki\u0161juhas pisao svoj tekst sa prislonjenim pi\u0161toljem, pre je to radio neko drugi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Autorka je pravnica u penziji<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Stavovi autora u rubrici Dijalog ne odra\u017eavaju nu\u017eno ure\u0111iva\u010dku politiku Danasa.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-4 code-block-block-4\">\n<div class=\"danas-dfp \">\n<div id=\"div-gpt-ad-1623144951755-0\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-disclaimer\">\n<p><strong><em>Pratite nas na na\u0161oj\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/www.danas.rs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener external noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Facebook<\/a>\u00a0i\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/danas.rs\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener external noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Instagram<\/a>\u00a0stranici, ali i na\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OnlineDanas\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener external noreferrer\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Twitter<\/a>\u00a0nalogu. 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